Tiana

I started smoking when I was 18. It was maybe a little bit of peer pressure, but I was fairly stressed and not coping very well with the things that were going on in my life. I was out with a friend, had some of hers and that was it.

No one really smoked around me when I was growing up. My mum was a social smoker, but I never really saw that. I only found out about it later. And my older brothers smoked but they weren’t living at the house at the time. I probably smoke a packet a day now.

Quit attempts?

I have tried to quit once and I went 2 weeks without a smoke. I had patches and gum and it just … I missed the habit.

Me and my mum – my mum smokes now – we sit outside and have a chat and talk about our day. When I quit smoking, she had to quit too. Then we didn’t really talk much anymore. We’d sit down for a cuppa but there was no smoking involved, so it was too short.

I still live with my mum and my dad. He’s a non-smoker – quite often he’ll send mum outside. Like, “Go and have a smoke with your daughter”. It’s become quite a little thing we do - smoking together and chatting about our day.

Healthcare support to quit

I think lots of people make an assumption that smokers just want to quit and so they’re trying to lobby and help us. But for me, I really don’t want to. I struggle with anxiety and depression, and all the things that health professionals suggest as coping mechanisms – I get all of that from smoking.
I get the deep breathing, I get to remove myself from stressful situations, I get to have a 10-minute time-out; something else to focus on instead of whatever it is that’s causing me anxiety. And 10 minutes after I smoke, I’m okay – back ready to face the world.

I’ve spoken to friends who are non-smokers who are super empathetic about it. Others with a lot of mental health issues say, you know, when you’re having an anxiety attack the last thing you do is meditate. And I agree, it’s really hard when you’re having an episode to be calm. I get that from smoking and I just am totally not going to quit anytime in the future.

I mean, there will come a time when the prices are just too much for me. Or, you know, something changes in my life where I’m forced to quit, but it’s probably not going to be by choice or a new year’s resolution.

How was lockdown?

I really struggled with it. I was supposed to go to America for a year. I’d quit all my jobs. I’d moved out of my place. I was really committed to the move overseas. I was there for 6 weeks when COVID hit and everything shut down. Then I had to stressfully try to get home. All my flights kept getting cancelled. I, luckily, made it home safely. I made it through isolation. I was fortunate enough to get work when I returned. And I moved back into my parents’ house because I’d given everything up.

I’m one of the very lucky few, but I didn’t come out unscathed. There’s not a lot we can do right now, but I enjoy smoking and it really helped in those 14 days of isolation where I had nothing to do and no one to talk to or anything else. I could at least go outside and have a smoke and my cup of coffee in the morning and stuff like that. I still feel like I’m one of the fortunate ones but, yeah, it wasn’t easy.

Tried vaping?

I did try vaping when I tried to quit but I coughed a lot on it, so I didn’t bother.

Taxing tobacco

It’s definitely gone up. I’m not impressed. Really not impressed. I think it’s quite ridiculous. People who are already smokers are just going to be living in poverty. I don’t think it’s fair to be capitalising off a habit that studies have shown is so addictive.

But it’s a really good deterrent for non-smokers. People who were maybe thinking of taking up the habit, they’re not going to take it up because it’s so ridiculous at the moment.

Again, I’m not going to quit just because they’ve put the price up. And yeah, it is making it harder when it comes to making choices in other aspects of my life, like choosing healthier food over unhealthy food and going to the gym instead of going out and stuff like that.

Bans on where people can smoke …

I don’t smoke if there is a non-smoker in my car. I have quite a few friends who smoke in my car, and before anyone who is a non-smoker gets in my car, I’m like, “Oh, I’m probably going to smoke, so if you still want to ride with me ...” But if they’re young kids, I just don’t smoke, or I’ll wait to get somewhere. That’s all right. I’m okay with that. I’m not big on making other people smoke or even smelling the second-hand smoke. But I still think it’s my choice to smoke. So, if I’ve gone away – like outside my house – to smoke, I don’t think that’s anyone’s right to stop me. 

Smokefree 2025

I don’t think it’s very fair. I think it’s a little bit discriminatory, actually. I get making certain places smoke-free but I don’t know if you can just stop someone, especially someone who’s been smoking for a long time, and just say you’re not allowed to do that habit anymore when we’re currently trying to make marijuana legal and drinking is still legal and gambling is legal.

Legalising cannabis?

I voted yes. I was in support of it. I think it’s silly that we can end a life now, but we can’t ease the pain of a life. And, people are already smoking marijuana. The Government might want that to stop but there’s always other ways people can get it. Just dictating that it’s illegal … those that enjoy having a joint or a smoke – or whatever it is that they do – make it illegal and they’re most likely going to get convictions because of it. I think it’s just silly.

I’m still smoking. Not a lot has changed. A lot of my friends and family smoke. We just go out and smoke and no one seems to mind. I find it a bonding moment. It’s a time to be together.

I’ve gotten closer to some of my siblings because we smoke. When I was little, they smoked and I didn’t. They’d go outside for ages, and they’d be talking about whatever and I wasn’t in on that, whereas now we all go out and I’m there for all the conversations. I like the social aspect and it helps people relax and there’s no judgment. 

Tried vaping?

My mum switched to vaping, which I think’s really cool for her. She didn’t smoke very much. She only smoked socially so she still joins us and feels included.  She’s using the I-Q-O-S vape. It looks like a cigarette and feels like a cigarette but, at the same time, it’s got a little bit of nicotine in it but not that much. And it releases more of a vapour rather than a smoke. We still act as if she smokes.

She gave me a try, but I didn’t like it. It’s kind of like switching between blue and red in menthol. They’ve got, like, a taste to them I just didn’t like. But Mum does. She started on Christmas Eve and then on Christmas Day we all went outside for a smoke, and I naturally offered her a cigarette and she took it. She said it made her feel sick. So, she doesn’t smoke at all now. It really worked for her.

I like smoking. There’s a start, there’s a finish and I’m used to that timing. Whereas with the vape that she has, it was a funny 2 or 3 minutes tops, then you’ve got to charge it. It didn’t quite feel the same to me. 

2^nd lockdown

I got 3 days off from the pre-school where I work and, on those 3 days, I picked up 16-hour shifts at my other job. So, I got paid at the pre-school and then I got extra money from my other job. I personally really like lockdowns for that reason.

Lockdown means that the pre-school closes and I’m gonna get paid regardless. I can pick up other hours at my second job as a youth worker. They’re an essential service, open 24 hours, 7 days a week. So, I picked up extra hours with them and they were really grateful. I was really grateful 'cause I’m getting extra money. So, I quite like lockdown. 

Youth in care

The young people in our care can’t go home. The youngest I’ve worked with was 7 years old and the oldest was 17. It varies. I had one girl whose social worker bought her smokes because she was an aggressive person and they did what they could to help keep her calm. One boy who’s not allowed to smoke, is being given patches and gum. Another youth smokes, and his parents buy cigarettes for him. Within the context of what we’re allowed to do, we can’t just take things off him that his parents have given him. Especially if it’s going to cause him to become escalated and end up hurting somebody, or himself.  We just note down, ‘He’s gone for a smoke. He’s gone out.’ 

We tell them, “It’s no smoking here, it’s not okay.” One youth has caught on that I smoke, because I tell them that I’m going to do a perimeter check, and there’s times he’s said to me, “Are you going for a smoke?” I go, “No, I’m going for a perimeter check; I’ve got to make sure you guys are safe.” The youth that do smoke, I don’t say anything ‘cause I don’t want to trigger them into wanting one. Because we’re not supposed to smoke, we try not to smoke in front of the young people.

For a lot of them, they used to smoke. Their whole family smoked. Their siblings all smoke. It’s kind of like me – everyone in my family smoked so it was just a matter of time before I started. 

Stigma

I’m very careful smoking. I always wash my face and my hands when I go back into work, and I’m always spraying my clothes so I’m not bringing the smell back in with me. I don’t want to smell. I don’t want anyone who’s a non-smoker to feel imposed on by me smoking. I want to respect everyone’s space so they respect my space. I don’t like being judged for it. I don’t judge anybody for not doing it. 

I’ve got friends who don’t smoke and they’re quite happy to hang around me. I wouldn’t exclude them for not smoking. If I go to events and I’m the only smoker there, I feel if I go back inside, they’re gonna look at me and it’s a little bit embarrassing or I feel a bit self-conscious. It’s not gonna stop me smoking, but it doesn’t make me feel very good either. I like to hang with other smokers then I feel no judgment from that corner.

I’m still smoking. My younger brother has moved home and he smokes. So, I’m smoking a little bit more in the evenings than I normally am, just while I’ve got somebody to smoke with.  

Tried vaping?

I tried it. It’s not for me. I just kept puffing on it. There’s no satisfaction of finishing and starting. When people used to ask me if they can smoke the rest of mine, I’d smoke half, give the rest to them and light another one. So even though I’m having, like more, I just needed to have the process of finishing it. I don’t do that anymore because of COVID.

I can’t say for certain that I’m not addicted to the nicotine. I think I’m more addicted to the habit. I have set times throughout my day or set jobs that I complete, and then I can go and have a smoke. Wake up in the morning, have my coffee and a smoke; go see my friend and we’ll have a couple of smokes and then we leave. I time my breaks by how many smokes I’ve had. It’s more like the ritual versus smoking itself. I’ve got in a habit for my morning tea break, go outside, have a smoke, come back, finished.

Quit attempts  

There was a couple of times I have tried to quit, and I just didn’t know what to do with myself. I just sat in the staffroom, and I was like, what do people do in here?   

Smoking at work

I’m left in charge a lot of the time. When I sat in the staffroom on my break, people are like, blah, blah, blah – still giving me work. I particularly enjoyed that escape – go have a smoke and I’m away from everything. There are times where I feel bad. There’s a lot more non-smokers now, which I also kind of enjoy because some people will just stay away from me. When I wanna just sit outside by myself, not many people will sit at the table next to me. I don’t mind it. If I see a family, I’ll put it out. But if I’m out in town and I have a smoke and people avoid me, I enjoy that ’cause I don’t wanna be bothered. Sometimes I just wanna be by myself. 

I’m an early childhood teacher. I probably swear like a sailor at home, but I can’t remember if I ever swear in my classroom. None of the families – unless they’re smokers – know I smoke, unless I’ve chosen to disclose it. I’m always very careful to wash my hands, wash my face, have a breath mint, change out of my clothes if I need to, spray. I’m very aware of the smell of smoke, especially because I can be holding someone’s baby. I’ve never had any complaints. Parents are more likely to ask me what washing powder I use. The fact that they can smell my washing powder on their children, tells me that if I were to smoke and I wasn’t careful, they’d smell my smoke on their children. I’m very aware that you don’t swear in front of kids, you don’t smoke in front of kids. At the park, if people have brought their kids over, I put it out or move away.

Bans on where people can smoke

If you’re over 18, I don’t care if you wanna be around me when I smoke. But I don’t feel like I should force it on kids. If you’ve got Mum, Dad, and a couple of kids, they’re not choosing to smoke. That’s not fair to be smoking around them – for them to have a second-hand smoke.

I try to be respectful of other people who haven’t chosen to smoke. There are times, you’re out and there’s the smokers’ area. I’m gonna go out there and smoke. If there’s people who don’t like smoking, don’t come out here. Whereas, if you’re at a café, even outside, and there’s no table left for the mum and her baby to sit down at, I’m not gonna make anyone smell my second-hand smoke. Kids aren’t choosing to smoke, and they don’t get a choice where they sit – they’re sitting with their parents. 

I smoke in my car, but as soon as somebody else gets in, I won’t smoke unless they’re a smoker too. I don’t smoke in my house. I won’t smoke around people’s homes who are non-smokers unless they’ve said, oh you can go have a smoke. 

I’d be really annoyed if they made smoking in cars illegal if I’m in my car by myself. I’m still gonna smoke in my car. I remember they were making it illegal, or a fine, to smoke in public spaces. At first, I was really conscious of it, but now no-one really pays too much attention to that. Smokers will always find a place to smoke. Push us out further. Push us across the road. We’re still gonna go out and smoke. 

Smokefree 2025

There’s so many people travelling through, and most tourists smoke. I just find it very unwelcoming to make New Zealand smokefree when so much of the world smoke. We’re too rural. We’re not a big city where everybody can just nip into a smoking booth. It’s silly. How many tourists are gonna come here? I wouldn’t. If you told me Australia’s smokefree, I’m not travelling there – I just wouldn’t.

It is absolutely ridiculous that smokers are being targeted for a complete ban when so many other vices are still legal. They tried to make marijuana legal. So, I can smoke a joint but I couldn’t smoke a cigarette. Never mind that smoking doesn’t impair me in any way whatsoever. I can still drive a car, I can go to school, I can still work, I’m still clear-headed. It’s not like I’m taking shots or smoking a joint in my lunch break. Yes, cigarettes are harmful to our bodies – so is McDonald’s. Where do they draw the line at this banning thing? I just find it utterly ridiculous. 

There are definitely things they could do to help prevent young people from starting smoking. That’s where they need to focus their attention – not penalise people who’ve been smoking for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years. Smokes are ridiculously expensive – that kind of addiction after 50 years, 40 years and you’re just gonna cold turkey people? It’s ruthless. 

We’ve got people with drug and alcohol problems. If there’s no plan to ban alcohol, then there should be no plan to ban cigarettes. Alcohol’s bad for you too and worse for your brain – impairs you. I drink, I’m not shaming drinkers, ha ha. It’s just why is there such a huge focus on trying to ban cigarettes, in a short amount of time too, in 5 years or something, and there’s no plan to ban alcohol. It’s utterly ridiculous.

Is it really worth it? If you’re gonna ban everything’s that’s not good for you, ban everything then. They’re only gonna make it like how people go out and get heroin and cocaine and ecstasy. Smoking is still gonna happen, but it’s gonna be done through gangs and the black market. It’s so stupid. People who have an addiction, they’ll channel that addiction into something else, or there’ll be a black market for it. We’ll all be doing deals in the corner trying to get cigarettes.

It’s not hurting as many people as other things are. Ecstasy’s supposed to be banned in this country – it’s still readily available. Weed is supposed to be illegal in this country – it’s still readily available. What makes them think that cigarettes won’t be readily available? You play to the black market, for people to overprice and sell in dodgy circumstances. It’s safe to buy cigarettes at the dairy or the shop. It won’t be safe anymore and it won’t be regulated. They’ll lose all the taxes from it, and they’ll just find something else to start taxing. I can’t see the sense – it’s such a huge cost to make it illegal. Make certain places smokefree, sure. Make events smokefree, sure. But don’t just take it off people altogether, you might as well take everything.  

If filters were banned

Just filters, not the tobacco? That sounds stupid. That sounds really silly.  People would start using a range of things to try and have a filter. I don’t smoke rollies, I smoke tailies, but if it were me, I’d be picking up cigarettes off the side of the road to get their filters. What do they expect people to use? I thought filters were fine. If they’re trying to stop it, just don’t sell tobacco. It seems just a silly, unnecessary step to take. 

Low / no nicotine

I don’t know if there’ll be an issue with that. I can’t imagine what they’d taste like. For me, smoking’s always been about everything apart from nicotine. I like the social aspect of it. I like the ability that it gives me to move away from situations. If I could still have a smoke that wasn’t with nicotine, it would be less bad. I had a shisha stick ages ago and it had no nicotine in it. The only thing I didn’t like about it was there was no start or finish. I like that with a cigarette – you light it, you start it, and it finishes. 

Ban the sale of tobacco to anyone younger than 30?

I have mixed feelings about that because I’m not quite 30 yet. I’ve been smoking a long time. If they were gonna do that, they should start it in increments. Like, start at 25 and move your way up so you’re not penalising those who have been old enough to smoke, who have been smoking for 10 years and have been addicted to cigarettes. How are they gonna help me cope with that? Is the cost of that worth it? 

I definitely think that raising the age is a good idea. I don’t think raising the age to 30 is necessary, that’s a bit too old. It’s a good idea to deter kids who have just left high school and haven’t really made any decisions for themselves yet. Those that can get them probably can, but those that haven’t been able to get them all of a sudden can get them. Maybe 21. Raise it just a little bit higher, like, gambling – just a little bit higher makes sense to me.  

If dairies and petrol stations could no longer sell cigarettes

I suppose it would make people more organised. I kind of agree, but I kind of don’t. There’s many times where I’ve run out late at night and I just pop up to the gas station ’cause they are usually still open. Supermarkets aren’t always open. If that’s gonna stop dairies and gas stations from getting robbed the way they are, then that’s cool.